Does the Christian Bible New Testament sanctify and uphold all the
atrocities
of the Old Testament?
Premise #1: Prov. 30:5. Every word of God is pure.
Premise #2: 2 Tim. 3:16. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
Premise #3: The law for the Jews is the Pentateuch [the first five
books of the Bible].
Reminder: The law for the Jews is the Pentateuch [the first five books
of
the Bible].
Does/does not this passage sanction slavery?
Exod. 21:2, 4-6. If thou buy an Hebrew manservant... If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he (the manservant) shall go out by himself. And if the servant shall plainly say, “I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free”; then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an awl; and he shall serve him forever. [Notice wives/children of Hewbrew manservants are not free to go with their husbands/fathers and therefore are effectively slaves because their liberty is denied, and the husbands/fathers, to be with the wives/children, must 'volunteer' to be effectively slaves, to be sold as slaves, etc.]
And this?
Lev. 25:44-46 [KJV]. Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with your which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever; but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour. [Italics in original]
Here is the same passage in the NIV/New International Version of the Bible:
Lev. 25:44-46 [NIV]: Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
Notice that ‘bondmen’ = ‘male slaves’ and ‘bondmaids’ = ‘female slaves.’
The KJV softens what must be the original term which meant ‘slave’ to mean ‘bondman/bondmaid’ whereas the NIV translates the original to mean ‘slave.’
Notice that both the KJV and the NIV translate the permission from God himself to the Jews to buy and sell slaves. There is no doubt about the meaning of these words: Jews were given permission to buy and sell slaves, slaves being fellow human beings who by their enslavement were denied their personal liberty.
Notice that both the KJV and the NIV translate Lev. 25:44-46 to mean that slaves/bondpeople can be slaves for life, meaning slaves for the rest of the lives of the slaves themselves, which does indeed seem likely, or slaves for the life (lives) of their owner(s), which does not seem likely.
Every fifty years the Jew were to have a jubilee as commanded by God to Moses thus:
Lev. 25: 10 [KJV]: Leviticus 25:10 And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubilee unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.
Were non-Israelite slave-type slaves freed during the jubilee?
We cannot determine such from these passages.
We can determine that Israelites who sold themselves into slavery/to be bondpeople were specifically to be given their freedom during the jubilee as revealed in Lev. 47-55.
Why is it clearly specified that Israelite slaves/bondpeople were to be freed in the jubilee and nonIsraelite slaves/bondpeople were not specified to be freed during the jubilee?
The logical conclusion is that Lev. 25:46 meant exactly what was specified; namely, that non-Israelite slaves/bondpeople [Lev. 25:44 {NIV}: Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.] are to be slaves for life [Lev. 25:46 {NIV}: You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, ...].
“It shall be a jubilee for you; each of you is to return to his family property and each to his own clan.”
That certainly does not sound as if directed to slaves nor concerning the release/liberty of slaves, for slaves prior to the jubilee did not have property to return to nor a clan as a family living upon recognized clan property.
Did/did not the gods order slave-capturing expeditions?
Deut. 20:10-15. When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it. And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries to thee, and they shall serve thee. And if it make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it; and the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: but the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself. ... Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far from thee, which are not of the cities of those nations.
Did you notice the requirement/commandment of the gods to kill all males in those cities whose people resist being conquered?
Did/did not the Bible acknowledge slavery?
Exod. 21:20-21. And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he [the servant or maid] die under his hand; he shall surely be punished. ... Notwithstanding, if he [the master, the slaveowner] continue [to beat the servant] a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money. [These passages clearly appear to say that if a slaveowner beats his slave to death over several days, that is okay, but if the slaveowner beats the slave and kills him quickly, that is not okay.]
Does/does not this following passage sanction selling daughters?
Exod. 21:7. And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do [be set free from, or sold from the master’s house].
NOTE: The man who sells his daughter is not to be punished.
Luke 16:31. If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they
be
persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Matt. 5:17-19. [Quoting Jesus] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am come not to destroy the law, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled. whosoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
NOTE: Does not this passage allegedly attributed to Jesus clearly indicate that Jesus does not intend to change the “law” but to implement it? And thereby sanctify it?
Luke 16:17. It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
Complete Quote: 2 Tim. 3:15-16. From a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
John 5:39, 46-47. Search the scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. ... For had ye believed Moses, you would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Luke 24:25, 27. Then he said unto them, “O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken.” ... And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Reminder: The law for the Jews is the Pentateuch [the first five books of the Bible].
John 1:17. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth shall come by Jesus Christ. ... John 8:5. “Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such [an adulteress] shall be stoned: but what sayest thou?”
John 1:17. For the law was given by Moses, ...
1. The Christian Bible Old Testament Pentateuch provides the “law” for
Jews
and Christians.
2. The Christian Bible Old Testament Pentateuch/Law permits slavery and the selling of daughters.
3. The Christian Bible New Testament says Jesus did not refute or
change the law, therefore Jesus did not act to refute slavery/the
selling of daughters, therefore by not acting/refuting Jesusd
effectively sanctioned slavery and
the selling of daughters.
Premise #1: Prov. 30:5. Every word of God is pure.
Premise #2: 2 Tim. 3:16. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
Premise #3: The law for the Jews is the Pentateuch [the first five books of the Bible].
Premise #4: Exod. 21:2, 4-6. If thou buy an Hebrew manservant... If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he (the manservant) shall go out by himself. And if the servant shall plainly say, “I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free”; then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an awl; and he shall serve him forever.
Premise #5: Lev. 25:44-46. Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. Moreover, of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families. ... And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever.
Premise #6: Exod. 21:7. And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant ...
Premise #7: Matt. 5:17-19. [Quoting Jesus] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am come not to destroy the law, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled. whosoever, therefore, shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Conclusion #1: The Christian Bible Old Testament sanctions slavery and the selling of daughters to be maidservants.
Conclusion #2: The Christian Bible New Testament asserts Jesus did not act to refute/change/destroy the law but to fulfill it and therefore uphold and sanctify it.
Conclusion #3: The Christian Bible [Old Testament & New
Testament] sanctions slavery and the selling of daughters to be
maidservants.
The following are additions derived from individuals contributing to
the
following website:
http://www.iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=51&t=000058&p=
bd-from-kg
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Member # 514
bd makes this point:
[There has been a] deliberate softening of the original Hebrew text by the KJV translators (and many others who followed their example). Compare, for example, the New Revised Standard Version (as used in the New Oxford Annotated Bible). In Exodus 21, the words translated as “servant”, “manservant”, etc. in the KJV are rendered properly as “slave”, “male slave”, etc. The NOAB describes Ex. 21:7-11 as defining “the rights of a female slave or concubine”. ... [It’s] a good rule of thumb, if you’re using the KJV, to assume that a word like “servant” is really referring to a slave; this is the case about 95% of the time. Better yet, use a more honest translation.
excreationist
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Member # 764
excreationist adds the following Biblical quotes which recognize/sanction/encourage slavery:
Ephesians 6:5-9: Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will reward everyone for whatever good he does, whether he is slave or free. And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him. [Note: Translation version not given.]
[Note: Eph. 6:5-9 KJV: Servants, be obediant to them that are your masters according to the flesh, and with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers, but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; with good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. And ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.{Italics in original.}]
Colossians 3:22: Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
1 Timothy 6:1-2: All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered. Those who have believing masters are not to show less respect for them because they are brothers. Instead, they are to serve them even better, because those who benefit from their service are believers, and dear to them. These are the things you are to teach and urge on them.
Titus 2:9-10: Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them, and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive.
1 Peter 2:18-21: Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. For it is commendable if a man bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because he is conscious of God. But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
excreationist also says:
Revelations also mentions slaves, so it seems like God expects slavery to be around until the end of the world... and then the faithful become "slaves of Christ" and worship God a lot while the rest, who are "slaves to sin" will burn in hell. (Revelation 6:15,13:16,19:18)
1 Cor 7:20-23: Each one should remain in the situation which he was in
when
God called him. Were you a slave when you were called? Don't let it
trouble
you-- although if you can gain your freedom, do so. For he who was a
slave
when he was called by the Lord is the Lord's freedman; similarly, he
who
was a free man when he was called is Christ's slave. You were bought at
a
price; do not become slaves of men. [Note: Translation version not
given.]
[Note: 1 Cor. 7:20-23 KJV: Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called. Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather. Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men. {Italics in original.}]
Gal. 3:28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. [Note: Translation version not given.]
[Note: Gal. 3:28 KJV: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.]
1 Cor 12:13: We were all baptized by one Spirit into one body-- whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free-- and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. [Note: Translation version not given.]
[Note: 1 Cor. 12:13 KJV: For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and ye have been made to drink into one Spirit. {Italics in original}]
Jack the Bodiless
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Jack adds the following Biblical quotes which recognize/sanction/encourage slavery:
Exodus 22:16: And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife. If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29: If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Leviticus 25:39-55: If one of your [Hebrew?] countrymen becomes poor among you and sells himself to you, do not make him work as a slave. He is to be treated as a hired worker or a temporary resident among you; he is to work for you until the Year of Jubilee. Then he and his children are to be released, and he will go back to his own clan and to the property of his forefathers. Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves. Do not rule over them [the Hebrew servants?] ruthlessly, but fear your God. Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents [non-Hebrews] living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. [implies that harsh treatment of foreign slaves is permitted (see Ex. 21:20-21)] If an alien or a temporary resident among you becomes rich and one of your [Hebrew] countrymen becomes poor and sells himself [as a servant?] to the alien living among you or to a member of the alien's clan, he retains the right of redemption after he has sold himself. [implies that foreign slaves don't have that right] One of his relatives may redeem him: An uncle or a cousin or any blood relative in his clan may redeem him. Or if he prospers, he may redeem himself. He and his buyer are to count the time from the year he sold himself up to the Year of Jubilee. The price for his release is to be based on the rate paid to a hired man for that number of years. If many years remain, he must pay for his redemption a larger share of the price paid for him. If only a few years remain until the Year of Jubilee, he is to compute that and pay for his redemption accordingly. He [The Hebrew servant] is to be treated as a man hired from year to year; you must see to it that his owner does not rule over him ruthlessly. Even if he is not redeemed in any of these ways, he and his children are to be released in the Year of Jubilee, for the Israelites belong to me as servants [not slaves]. They are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt. I am the LORD your God.
Exodus 21:26-27: If a man hits a manservant or maidservant in the eye and destroys it, he must let the servant go free to compensate for the eye. And if he knocks out the tooth of a manservant or maidservant, he must let the servant go free to compensate for the tooth.
The Christian Bible's Ten Commandments include recognition and therefore sanctioning and encouragement of slavery (and therefore should not be posted in classroom/courtrooms and if so posted should be removed ASAP).
Check out Commandments #4 and #10.
The Ten Commandments of the Judeo-Christian Religions
1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Ex. 20: 3.
2. Thou shalt not make any graven image, or any likeness of anything
that
is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the
waters
beneath the earth; thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve
them.
Ex. 20: 4., 5.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain, for the
Lord
will not hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain. Ex. 20: 7.
4. Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour
and
do all thy works; but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy
God;
in it thou shalt do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy
manservant,
nor thy maidservant, nor thy stranger which is within thy gates. Ex.
20:
8-10.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother, that thy days be long upon the
land
which the Lord thy God giveth thee. Ex. 20: 12.
6. Thou shalt not kill. Ex. 20: 13.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. Ex. 20: 14.
8. Thou shalt not steal. Ex. 20: 15.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Ex. 20: 16.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house; thou salt not covet thy
neighbor’s
wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass,
nor
anything that is thy neighbor’s. Ex. 20: 17.
Note: Commandment # 4: “Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour and do all thy works; but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God; in it thou shalt do any work, thou, nor ... thy manservant, nor thy maidservant ...” clearly recognizes and therefore sanctions slavery (it certainly does not command that slaves be freed and slavery be abolished).
Note: Commandment #10: “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ...
manservant, nor his maidservant, ...” clearly recognizes and therefore
sanctions slavery (it certainly does not command that slaves be freed
and slavery be abolished).